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right now the vote is 60%-40% in favor of president obama over mitt romney. jetblue's giving away 2012 seats or 1,006 round trips. you'll obviously have to pay your taxes and fees which as we well know, sometimes can be more in total than the price of the ticket itself by the time you pay maybe $100 at the gate for checking in your bag, plus various other things like a sandwich. >> is that vote for people you don't want to win? because if your candidate loses -- >> if the other guy wins -- if i'm a huge obama supporter, romney wins, i might be eligible to -- >> i think at the end of the day, it is supposed to be fun. >> let me correct you. there is nothing about flying that is fun especially when you're over 5'0" tall. or $6 6'0". >>> pretty remarkable run in the home builder stocks today, mandy. "wall street journal" article discussing the dampened momentum in the apartment rental market may be partly a function of the rebound that we're seeing in housing demands. that's the silver lining to the story. take a look at some of those home builder stocks moving
right now the vote is 60%-40% in favor of president obama over mitt romney. jetblue's giving away 2012 seats or 1,006 round trips. you'll obviously have to pay your taxes and fees which as we well know, sometimes can be more in total than the price of the ticket itself by the time you pay maybe $100 at the gate for checking in your bag, plus various other things like a sandwich. >> is that vote for people you don't want to win? because if your candidate loses -- >> if the other guy...
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i give romney credit for moving in the right direction here, but he should be bolder, like paul ryan's house plan. >> the other issue is -- the ultimate goal here is to create economic growth, right? >> right. >> dave, if you were to see these tax cuts actually lead to economic growth, lead businesses to create jobs, do you get there the other way, through economic growth and job creation? isn't that the ultimate goal? >> yeah, but maria, look, it's tough to create economic growth. you whack the home mortgage interest deduction and the housing sector takes a hit. whack the employer health insurance deduction, and the health sector takes a hit. >> but you're lowering taxes for corporations and individuals. doesn't it mean those people most likely and those companies most likely will be putting money back into the economy to create jobs and to create consumer spending? i was looking at the ultimate goal here. so, you know, is that where he's going with this, to eventually create growth? >> yes. the marginal tax rates are the driver of economic growth no matter -- no doubt about it. look,
i give romney credit for moving in the right direction here, but he should be bolder, like paul ryan's house plan. >> the other issue is -- the ultimate goal here is to create economic growth, right? >> right. >> dave, if you were to see these tax cuts actually lead to economic growth, lead businesses to create jobs, do you get there the other way, through economic growth and job creation? isn't that the ultimate goal? >> yeah, but maria, look, it's tough to create...
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so ohio may be a better shot for mitt romney. as i mentioned, i was talking to a romney strategist the other day and said, well, you're getting closer in florida, but you're still far behind in ohio. and his answer was we need both of them. >> yeah, in some ways maybe tonight's aimed at an economically challenged woman in ohio as someone wrote earlier in the week. john, we'll see you tonight of course. do not miss coverage of the president shpresidential debate. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to bere. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to bedet presidential debate. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to be presidential debate. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to bepr. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to be a perfect segue. because in the end, whether you believe polls or not, it's exactly what i'm going to talk about regarding data. polls are basically surveys. do people actually guarantee they'll vote the way they're p
so ohio may be a better shot for mitt romney. as i mentioned, i was talking to a romney strategist the other day and said, well, you're getting closer in florida, but you're still far behind in ohio. and his answer was we need both of them. >> yeah, in some ways maybe tonight's aimed at an economically challenged woman in ohio as someone wrote earlier in the week. john, we'll see you tonight of course. do not miss coverage of the president shpresidential debate. >>> let's get to...
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this evening, in my view, romney needs to put obama on defense right at the beginning, take him to the cleaners, right out of the gate, no wasted time, do what john mccain did not get down four years ago. i hate to say that. this is a choice between tax cuts and tax hikes. you need to make that case. now i want to hear from our panelists in the kudlow caucus. former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not been able to make the sale. that's what the polls show. that's why this thing is close. why hasn't he and what's he going to do tonight differently than he's done in the past. >> i think he's going to make the contrast with president obama, why expanding the pie is in the national interest. not redistributing an ever slowing economy but expanding the pie so everybody gets a job that wants a job, people's salaries are rising. i think he needs to lay
this evening, in my view, romney needs to put obama on defense right at the beginning, take him to the cleaners, right out of the gate, no wasted time, do what john mccain did not get down four years ago. i hate to say that. this is a choice between tax cuts and tax hikes. you need to make that case. now i want to hear from our panelists in the kudlow caucus. former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you,...
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. >> right. but senior citizens are the strongest element of romney's coalition. doing very well with them right now. >> john, i know that every day as we get closer to the election, we need things to talk about, and the polls are all we have. how many people was this, 849 or something? what's the number? >> you talking about the national poll? >> yeah, either one. >> in the swing state polls, we do 1,300 registered voters. >> doesn't matter what the actual numbers are. i remember taking statistics, so i understand standard -- i understand how they try to make it scientific. but you know what i'm saying. you take any 900 people at any given tile and you think about 200 million people, whatever it is, but then we microanalyze the moist minute details because that's what we do as journalists. i can give you polls -- i saw a poll last week that had -- it was plus-four for the president, and then another one was down six. it was an individual state. and then you got the deviations between rasmussen consistently and some of the other, whether it's quinnipiac or the oth
. >> right. but senior citizens are the strongest element of romney's coalition. doing very well with them right now. >> john, i know that every day as we get closer to the election, we need things to talk about, and the polls are all we have. how many people was this, 849 or something? what's the number? >> you talking about the national poll? >> yeah, either one. >> in the swing state polls, we do 1,300 registered voters. >> doesn't matter what the actual...
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you can catch it all right here live on cnbc beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern. i'll be hosting the pre and post coverage along with carl quintanilla. of course, john harwood will also be with us. he's live on the ground in denver. he's here with a preview. over to you, john. >> hey, maria. it's important to remember this election isn't over. if you look at the new polls that we came out with last night and this morning, mitt romney's only trailing by three points nationally. that's down from a five-point margin a couple weeks ago. he's 9/11 florieven in florida,. he still trails in ohio by five points. that's a big problem. he needs to win the state of ohio. that just shows he has an opportunity tonight. three other big economic issues they're going to be talking about, first of all, on taxes. mitt romney hasosed a 20% across the board rate cut for individuals, but he hasn't specified how he's going to pay for that without increasing the deficit or increasing the burden on middle and low-income workers. president obama will press him on that. by the same token,
you can catch it all right here live on cnbc beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern. i'll be hosting the pre and post coverage along with carl quintanilla. of course, john harwood will also be with us. he's live on the ground in denver. he's here with a preview. over to you, john. >> hey, maria. it's important to remember this election isn't over. if you look at the new polls that we came out with last night and this morning, mitt romney's only trailing by three points nationally. that's down...